Grieving While Fearing Deportation: Inside El Paso Residents’ Fears | NBC News Now


THERE WAS ANOTHER CONCERN, DEPORTATION. DEPORTATION.>>>WHEN THE SHOOTING STOPSPED,>>>WHEN THE SHOOTING STOPSPED, THERE WERE MANY FAMILIES ACROSS THERE WERE MANY FAMILIES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY THAT DIDN’T KNOW THE COMMUNITY THAT DIDN’T KNOW IF THEIR LOVED ONES WERE IF THEIR LOVED ONES WERE AFFECTED. AFFECTED. THERE WAS A FAMILY REUNIFICATION THERE WAS A FAMILY REUNIFICATION CENTER SET UP NEAR BY THE MALL CENTER SET UP NEAR BY THE MALL WHERE THE SHOOTINGS OCCURRED. WHERE THE SHOOTINGS OCCURRED. THIS IS ALSO A COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS ALSO A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN VERY MILITARYIZED SINCE HAS BEEN VERY MILITARYIZED SINCE WE HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A LOT OF WE HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A LOT OF FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE BORDER FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE BORDER PATROL AND ICE AND DEPARTMENT OF PATROL AND ICE AND DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WHO ALL HOMELAND SECURITY WHO ALL MOBILIZED TO RESPOND TO WHAT MOBILIZED TO RESPOND TO WHAT HAPPENED. HAPPENED. BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE WERE SOME BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE WERE SOME FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN INTIMIDATED OR AFRAID TO GO TO INTIMIDATED OR AFRAID TO GO TO THE FAMILY REUNIFICATION CENTER THE FAMILY REUNIFICATION CENTER OR THE HOSPITAL OR TO CONTACT OR THE HOSPITAL OR TO CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT. LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE’VE SERVED AS AN HONEST BROKER WE’VE SERVED AS AN HONEST BROKER SO FOLKS DON’T HAVE TO WORRY SO FOLKS DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS OR ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS OR BEING DOCUMENTED OR BEING DOCUMENTED OR UNDOCUMENTED. UNDOCUMENTED.>>EVEN THOUGH I SAID THEY ARE>>EVEN THOUGH I SAID THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING ENFORCEMENT NOT PERFORMING ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS SHOOTING, JUST THE PRESENCE THIS SHOOTING, JUST THE PRESENCE OF THE VEHICLES WAS ENOUGH TO OF THE VEHICLES WAS ENOUGH TO THWART SOME IMMIGRANTS WHO MAY THWART SOME IMMIGRANTS WHO MAY BE UNDOCUMENTED. BE UNDOCUMENTED.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. WE’VE SEEN THREATS OF MASSIVE WE’VE SEEN THREATS OF MASSIVE DEPORTATIONS IN THE PAST WEEKS, DEPORTATIONS IN THE PAST WEEKS, IN THE PAST MONTHS. IN THE PAST MONTHS. SO NATURALLY WHEN YOU SEE A SO NATURALLY WHEN YOU SEE A BORDER PATROL VEHICLE, YOU’RE BORDER PATROL VEHICLE, YOU’RE GOING TO WONDER ABOUT STATUS, GOING TO WONDER ABOUT STATUS, YOU’RE GOING TO WONDER WHETHER YOU’RE GOING TO WONDER WHETHER YOU CAN TRUST THE AUTHORITIES. YOU CAN TRUST THE AUTHORITIES. WE NEED TO CONTINUE AS A WE NEED TO CONTINUE AS A COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BUILT TRUST WITH THESE WE HAVE BUILT TRUST WITH THESE AGENCIES BUT TRUTH BE TOLD IN AGENCIES BUT TRUTH BE TOLD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS UNDER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, A LOT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, A LOT OF THAT TRUST HAS BEEN ERODED. OF THAT TRUST HAS BEEN ERODED. AFTER THE INAUGURATION, WE SAW AFTER THE INAUGURATION, WE SAW THAT CALLS TO THE POLICE AND TO THAT CALLS TO THE POLICE AND TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THINGS LIKE DOMESTIC ABUSE FOR THINGS LIKE DOMESTIC ABUSE PLUMMETED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLUMMETED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TONE BEING SET IN WASHINGTON BY TONE BEING SET IN WASHINGTON BY THIS PRESIDENT. THIS PRESIDENT.>>DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE I.C.E.>>DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE I.C.E. AGENTS OR CUSTOMS AND BORDER AGENTS OR CUSTOMS AND BORDER PATROL AGENTS HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY PATROL AGENTS HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY VILLAINIZED BECAUSE THERE ARE A VILLAINIZED BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM WHO ARE LATINO AND LOT OF THEM WHO ARE LATINO AND HAVE SIMILAR STORIES IN THEIR HAVE SIMILAR STORIES IN THEIR BACKGROUND? BACKGROUND?>>WE VESWRESTLE WITH THOSE ISSU>>WE VESWRESTLE WITH THOSE ISSU EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY. THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS THOUSANDS OF AGENTS SO THEY’RE THOUSANDS OF AGENTS SO THEY’RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY’RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY’RE PART OF OUR CHURCHES, THEY’RE PART OF OUR CHURCHES, THEY’RE PART OF OUR FAMILIES. PART OF OUR FAMILIES. BUT WE’VE ALSO SEEN PRETTY HARSH BUT WE’VE ALSO SEEN PRETTY HARSH AND DRACONIAN POLICIES WHICH AND DRACONIAN POLICIES WHICH HAVE SURPRISETERRORIZED FAMILIES HAVE SURPRISETERRORIZED FAMILIES THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WRESTLE WITH EVERY DAY. WRESTLE WITH EVERY DAY. THIS IS VISCERAL FOR US. THIS IS VISCERAL FOR US. IT’S NOT BLACK AND WHITE. IT’S NOT BLACK AND WHITE.>>YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT>>YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU’RE GOING TO BE HAVING A YOU’RE GOING TO BE HAVING A MEETING TONIGHT WITH OTHER MEETING TONIGHT WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP POTENTIAL THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD COME AND VISIT THIS COULD COME AND VISIT THIS COMMUNITY IN THE WAKE OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE WAKE OF THE SHOOTING. SHOOTING. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR REACTION IF WHAT WOULD BE YOUR REACTION IF HE CAME HERE? HE CAME HERE?>>THIS PRESIDENT HAS USED THE>>THIS PRESIDENT HAS USED THE BORDER, HAS USED MIGRANTS RIGHT BORDER, HAS USED MIGRANTS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, THE FIRST FROM THE BEGINNING, THE FIRST DAY OF HIS CAMPAIGN. DAY OF HIS CAMPAIGN. FOR HIM TO WALK INTO A VERY FOR HIM TO WALK INTO A VERY DELICATE SITUATION RIGHT NOW DELICATE SITUATION RIGHT NOW WHEN FOLKS ARE STILL PLANNING WHEN FOLKS ARE STILL PLANNING THEIR FUNERALS AND COMING TO THEIR FUNERALS AND COMING TO GRIPS WITH THE NEWS THEY LOST GRIPS WITH THE NEWS THEY LOST LOVED ONES, WHEN SURVIVORS ARE LOVED ONES, WHEN SURVIVORS ARE DEALING WITH HORRIFIC WOUNDS IN DEALING WITH HORRIFIC WOUNDS IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW. THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW. THESE WOUNDS ARE STILL FRESH, THESE WOUNDS ARE STILL FRESH, WHETHER THEY’RE PHYSICAL OR WHETHER THEY’RE PHYSICAL OR EMOTIONAL. EMOTIONAL. SO HE’D BE WALKING INTO A SO HE’D BE WALKING INTO A SITUATION THAT’S VERY DELICATE SITUATION THAT’S VERY DELICATE AND HE COULD DO A LOT OF DAMAGE. AND HE COULD DO A LOT OF DAMAGE.>>SIMONE, I COULD SEE THE VIGIL>>SIMONE, I COULD SEE THE VIGIL AND THE MEMORIAL BEHIND YOU. AND THE MEMORIAL BEHIND YOU. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HOW ARE THEY COMMUNITY AND HOW ARE THEY DOING? DOING?>>Reporter: AS YOU JUST HEARD>>Reporter: AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM DYLAN, THERE HAVE BEEN A FROM DYLAN, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. HE SAYS THAT HIS ORGANIZATION HE SAYS THAT HIS ORGANIZATION HAS RECEIVED ABOUT A HALF A HAS RECEIVED ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN CALLS AFTER THE SHOOTING DOZEN CALLS AFTER THE SHOOTING HAPPENED, SOME PEOPLE ASKING HAPPENED, SOME PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS, SOME FEARING THAT QUESTIONS, SOME FEARING THAT THEY WOULD SEQUENCES FROM LAW THEY WOULD SEQUENCES FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS GRAPPLING WITH FEAR RIGHT NOW. GRAPPLING WITH FEAR RIGHT NOW. EVEN U.S. CITIZENS ARE NOW EVEN U.S. CITIZENS ARE NOW AFRAID TO GO INTO A WALMART AND AFRAID TO GO INTO A WALMART AND GO GROCERY SHOPPING. GO GROCERY SHOPPING. THESE WHITE CROSSES WERE BUILT THESE WHITE CROSSES WERE BUILT BY A MAN WHO BUILDS THESE BY A MAN WHO BUILDS THESE CROSSES AT TRAGEDIES THAT HAVE CROSSES AT TRAGEDIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE ALL ACROSS THE TAKEN PLACE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. HE NUMBERS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF HE NUMBERS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE. THESE. HE’S ALREADY MADE OVER 26,000 HE’S ALREADY MADE OVER 26,000 CROSSES, IF YOU CAN FATHOM THAT. CROSSES, IF YOU CAN FATHOM THAT. WE HAVE BEEN BLOWN AWAY BY THE WE HAVE BEEN BLOWN AWAY BY THE GENEROSITY AND KINDNESS OF THIS GENEROSITY AND KINDNESS OF THIS COMMUNITY EVEN AS THIS COMMUNITY COMMUNITY EVEN AS THIS COMMUNITY IS GRIEVING. IS GRIEVING. I WANT TO BRINK IN A YOUNG WOMAN I WANT TO BRINK IN A YOUNG WOMAN WHAT I MET HERE AT THE MEMORIAL. WHAT I MET HERE AT THE MEMORIAL. CATALINA, YOU ARE FROM THIS CATALINA, YOU ARE FROM THIS AREA, YOU GREW UP HERE. AREA, YOU GREW UP HERE. HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP? HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP?>>I’M JUST TRYING TO DEAL WITH>>I’M JUST TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THIS HAPPENED AT THE FACT THAT THIS HAPPENED AT ALL. ALL. MY HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY MY HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY IN EL PASO. IN EL PASO. BUT EVEN THEN ALL OF US AS A BUT EVEN THEN ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO JUST COMMUNITY ARE TRYING TO JUST DEAL WITH WHAT’S GOING ON AND DEAL WITH WHAT’S GOING ON AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT’S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT’S HAPPENING AND TRYING TO JUST HAPPENING AND TRYING TO JUST COMFORT ONE ANOTHER. COMFORT ONE ANOTHER.>>IT’S SUCH A TIGHT KNIT>>IT’S SUCH A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. YOU TOLD ME YOU HAVE FRIENDS OF YOU TOLD ME YOU HAVE FRIENDS OF FRIENDS WHO WERE DIRECTLY FRIENDS WHO WERE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS. AFFECTED BY THIS.>>EL PASO IS A FAIRLY LARGE>>EL PASO IS A FAIRLY LARGE CITY, BUT AS A COMMUNITY ITSELF CITY, BUT AS A COMMUNITY ITSELF WE ARE SMALL AND WE ALL CARE WE ARE SMALL AND WE ALL CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. WHETHER IT WAS YOUR FAMILY WHETHER IT WAS YOUR FAMILY DIRECTLY OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY OR SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, IT HURTS US ALL. IT HURTS US ALL.>>YOU FEEL IT.>>YOU FEEL IT.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>I WANT TO LET YOU GO AND>>I WANT TO LET YOU GO AND MOURN. MOURN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING WITH US. WITH US.>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU.>>THE PRESIDENT’S UPCOMING>>THE PRESIDENT’S UPCOMING VISIT IS A THING A LOT OF PEOPLE VISIT IS A THING A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHILE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHILE THEY’RE TRYING TO MOURN. THEY’RE TRYING TO MOURN. THIS CUBEOULD BE A TOUGH THING T THIS CUBEOULD BE A TOUGH THING T DEAL WITH. DEAL WITH.>>Reporter: I’VE BEEN SPEAKING>>Reporter: I’VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE HERE AT THE MEMORIAL WITH PEOPLE HERE AT THE MEMORIAL ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS. ONE WOMAN WENT AS FAR AS TO ONE WOMAN WENT AS FAR AS TO BLAME THE SHOOTING ON TRUMP AND BLAME THE SHOOTING ON TRUMP AND SAY THAT HIS RHETORIC IS WHAT SAY THAT HIS RHETORIC IS WHAT CAUSED THIS DIRECTLY. CAUSED THIS DIRECTLY. ANOTHER WOMAN SAID THAT SHE ANOTHER WOMAN SAID THAT SHE WANTS TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY AND WANTS TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COUNTRY PUT POLITICS ASIDE THIS COUNTRY PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE AGAIN. AND FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE AGAIN. SHE SAID THAT HE IS OUR SHE SAID THAT HE IS OUR PRESIDENT, SO WHEN HE COMES HERE PRESIDENT, SO WHEN HE COMES HERE HE DEMANDS OUR RESPECT.

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